{"id":1594,"date":"2025-07-21T14:23:57","date_gmt":"2025-07-21T14:23:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/remote-support.space\/wordpress\/?p=1594"},"modified":"2025-07-21T14:24:05","modified_gmt":"2025-07-21T14:24:05","slug":"msg-and-nacl","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/remote-support.space\/wordpress\/2025\/07\/21\/msg-and-nacl\/","title":{"rendered":"MSG and NaCl"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">The\u00a0<strong>LD\u2085\u2080 (Lethal Dose, 50%)<\/strong>\u00a0values for\u00a0<strong>monosodium glutamate (MSG)<\/strong>\u00a0and\u00a0<strong>sodium chloride (NaCl, table salt)<\/strong>\u00a0have been studied in animal models, primarily rodents. Below is a comparison based on research findings:<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>1. LD\u2085\u2080 of Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Oral LD\u2085\u2080 (rats):<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>15,000 \u2013 18,000 mg\/kg<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Studies indicate that extremely high doses are required to cause acute toxicity.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Source:<\/strong>\u00a0<em>Walker, R., &amp; Lupien, J. R. (2000). &#8220;The Safety Evaluation of Monosodium Glutamate.&#8221; Journal of Nutrition, 130(4), 1049S\u20131052S.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Subcutaneous LD\u2085\u2080 (mice):<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>6,000 mg\/kg<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Higher toxicity when injected rather than ingested.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4><strong>Interpretation:<\/strong><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">MSG has\u00a0<strong>low acute toxicity<\/strong>\u00a0when consumed orally.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">The FDA and WHO classify it as\u00a0<strong>safe for human consumption<\/strong>\u00a0at normal dietary levels.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>2. LD\u2085\u2080 of Sodium Chloride (NaCl, Table Salt)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Oral LD\u2085\u2080 (rats):<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>3,000 mg\/kg<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Salt is\u00a0<strong>more acutely toxic<\/strong>\u00a0than MSG in high doses.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Source:<\/strong>\u00a0<em>European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) (2005). &#8220;Opinion on Sodium Chloride.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Subcutaneous LD\u2085\u2080 (mice):<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>4,000 mg\/kg<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4><strong>Interpretation:<\/strong><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">NaCl is\u00a0<strong>more toxic than MSG<\/strong>\u00a0in acute overdose scenarios.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Death from salt poisoning usually results from\u00a0<strong>hypernatremia<\/strong>\u00a0(excessive sodium in blood).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>3. Comparison Table<\/strong><\/h3>\n<div class=\"markdown-table-wrapper\">\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Substance<\/th>\n<th>Oral LD\u2085\u2080 (Rats)<\/th>\n<th>Subcutaneous LD\u2085\u2080 (Mice)<\/th>\n<th>Relative Toxicity<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>MSG<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>15,000\u201318,000 mg\/kg<\/td>\n<td>6,000 mg\/kg<\/td>\n<td><strong>Less toxic<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>NaCl<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>3,000 mg\/kg<\/td>\n<td>4,000 mg\/kg<\/td>\n<td><strong>More toxic<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>4. Human Context<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>MSG:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">A 70 kg adult would need to ingest\u00a0<strong>~1 kg of pure MSG<\/strong>\u00a0to reach a potentially lethal dose (unrealistic in normal diets).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Salt:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>~200 g of salt<\/strong>\u00a0could be lethal for a 70 kg adult (though vomiting usually prevents fatal intake).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4><strong>Conclusion:<\/strong><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Salt is significantly more toxic than MSG<\/strong>\u00a0in acute exposure.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Both are safe at normal dietary levels, but excessive salt poses a higher immediate risk.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">The negative perception of\u00a0<strong>monosodium glutamate (MSG)<\/strong>\u00a0has persisted for decades, despite scientific consensus that it is safe for most people. The origins of this bad press can be traced to a mix of\u00a0<strong>racism, flawed science, media sensationalism, and corporate interests<\/strong>. Here\u2019s a breakdown of who and what fueled the MSG scare:<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>1. The &#8220;Chinese Restaurant Syndrome&#8221; Myth (1968)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Origins:<\/strong>\u00a0The anti-MSG movement began with a\u00a0<strong>1968 letter<\/strong>\u00a0published in\u00a0<em>The New England Journal of Medicine<\/em>\u00a0by Dr. Robert Ho Man Kwok, who claimed he experienced numbness, weakness, and palpitations after eating Chinese food.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Flawed Science:<\/strong>\u00a0Kwok\u2019s anecdotal report lacked controlled studies, but the media ran with the idea of\u00a0<strong>&#8220;MSG sensitivity.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Racial Undertones:<\/strong>\u00a0The term &#8220;Chinese Restaurant Syndrome&#8221; reinforced xenophobic stereotypes, associating MSG with &#8220;foreign&#8221; and &#8220;unhealthy&#8221; food.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">\ud83d\udccc\u00a0<strong>Key Study Debunking It:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>A 1993 double-blind, placebo-controlled study<\/strong>\u00a0(<em>Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology<\/em>) found\u00a0<strong>no link between MSG and the reported symptoms<\/strong>\u00a0in self-proclaimed &#8220;MSG-sensitive&#8221; individuals.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>2. Media Sensationalism &amp; Pop Culture<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>60 Minutes &amp; Other Outlets:<\/strong>\u00a0In the 1980s\u201390s, TV shows and newspapers amplified fear without scientific backing.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Hollywood Influence:<\/strong>\u00a0Movies and TV often depicted MSG as a dangerous chemical (e.g.,\u00a0<em>The X-Files<\/em>\u00a0episode &#8220;Squeeze&#8221; villainized MSG as a toxic additive).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>3. Corporate Interests &amp; Competition<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Natural Food Industry:<\/strong>\u00a0Companies selling &#8220;organic&#8221; or &#8220;clean-label&#8221; products had a financial incentive to demonize MSG as an &#8220;artificial chemical.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Competitors to Ajinomoto (MSG Producer):<\/strong>\u00a0Some food companies promoted &#8220;No MSG&#8221; labels as a marketing tactic, even though their products contained\u00a0<strong>hidden glutamate sources<\/strong>\u00a0(e.g., hydrolyzed vegetable protein, yeast extract).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">\ud83d\udccc\u00a0<strong>Example:<\/strong>\u00a0Campbell\u2019s Soup removed MSG in the 1990s due to public pressure but replaced it with\u00a0<strong>yeast extract<\/strong>\u00a0(which contains natural glutamate).<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>4. Misinterpreted Animal Studies<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>&#8220;Excitotoxicity&#8221; Fear:<\/strong>\u00a0Some rodent studies in the 1960s\u201370s showed brain damage from\u00a0<strong>extremely high doses of MSG injected directly into the bloodstream<\/strong>\u2014not relevant to normal dietary intake.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Ignoring Human Metabolism:<\/strong>\u00a0Humans metabolize glutamate efficiently, and the blood-brain barrier prevents excessive glutamate from entering the brain.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">\ud83d\udccc\u00a0<strong>FDA &amp; WHO Stance:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>FDA:<\/strong>\u00a0Classifies MSG as\u00a0<strong>GRAS (Generally Recognized as Safe)<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>WHO\/FAO:<\/strong>\u00a0Sets\u00a0<strong>no strict ADI (Acceptable Daily Intake)<\/strong>\u00a0because normal consumption is harmless.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>5. Who Benefits from the MSG Scare?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<div class=\"markdown-table-wrapper\">\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Group<\/th>\n<th>Motive<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>&#8220;Natural&#8221; Food Companies<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Profit from &#8220;No MSG&#8221; labels.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Media Outlets<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Clicks &amp; views from fear-based stories.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Alternative Health Industry<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Sells detox myths &amp; anti-MSG supplements.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Xenophobic Narratives<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Targets Asian cuisine as &#8220;unhealthy.&#8221;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>6. Why Does the Myth Persist?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Confirmation Bias:<\/strong>\u00a0People who believe MSG harms them may attribute unrelated symptoms (e.g., overeating, alcohol, stress) to it.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Placebo\/Nocebo Effect:<\/strong>\u00a0If someone expects MSG to cause headaches, they might experience them even if given a placebo.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Lack of Updated Public Education:<\/strong>\u00a0Many still don\u2019t know that\u00a0<strong>tomatoes, Parmesan cheese, and mushrooms<\/strong>\u00a0contain natural glutamate.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>Conclusion: Who\u2019s Behind the Bad Press?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Primary Culprits:<\/strong>\u00a0Media fearmongering, corporate marketing, and racial bias.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Science Says:<\/strong>\u00a0MSG is\u00a0<strong>no worse than salt<\/strong>\u2014and may even help reduce sodium intake by enhancing flavor.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The\u00a0LD\u2085\u2080 (Lethal Dose, 50%)\u00a0values for\u00a0monosodium glutamate (MSG)\u00a0and\u00a0sodium chloride (NaCl, table salt)\u00a0have been studied in animal models, primarily rodents. Below is a comparison based on research findings: 1. LD\u2085\u2080 of Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) Oral LD\u2085\u2080 (rats):\u00a015,000 \u2013 18,000 mg\/kg Studies indicate that extremely high doses are required to cause acute toxicity. Source:\u00a0Walker, R., &amp; Lupien, J. 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